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« Thread Started on Dec 19, 2011, 2:50pm »
I am a big fan of the Alien franchise. The thing I love is how
incredibly unique and original the whole theme was at the time the
first movie was released. The alien itself looked like nothing I had
ever seen before, and the whole process with the face-huggers, chest
burters, and full grown monster hit on all the right levels to make it
frightening. I'm also a fan of Sigourney Weaver, and consider Ripley
to be her best character. I hope I'm not alone, and am curios to see
which movie everyone here favors. Personally, I think the second
movie, Aliens, was probably the best of the series. Even though the
first established it, the second one developed the story the most-you
learned that the aliens operate like a hive, and you saw the queen for
the first time. Ripley also developed the most in that particular
film, turning into the badass heroine we all know her as now. But I
also have a soft spot for Alien Resurrection, because I think it just
had a terrific cast and I loved the whole Newborn sub-plot. Anyone got
anything else to add?
« Reply #1 on Dec 19, 2011, 3:10pm »
The first one.
« Reply #2 on Dec 19, 2011, 3:18pm »
The first one, easily. It had incredible tension and build throughout,
creating a perfect atmosphere. They knew exactly how much to show you
of the alien to make that final reveal even scarier. It is, in my
mind, the perfect horror film.
The second one just turned the franchise it into a more generic action
series. They did get a lot right, sure, but it didn't have near the
level of tension because it was the same thing we'd seen before, just
set in the Alien universe.
The third one had promise and got back to the initial roots. I liked
it better than the second, but even though I didn't like the direction
2 took, I disliked how they killed off everyone off-screen before the
movie began even more.
Beyond that, it just went downhill.
« Reply #3 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:01pm »
I wrote my reply to this yesterday only for that f***ing ProBoards
update s*** to appear when i tried to post it. Grrrrrrr that stupid
bitch needs a facehugger on her! See if i can remember what i wrote...
I like Aliens best. Great characters, great action, more xenos and we
get to see a queen. Amazing tension as well with the motion trackers,
with every blip you were anticipating with dread hordes of the deadly
creatures approaching for the kill.
The original is a close second. Great atmosphere, classic scenes such
as the chestbursting sequence, amazing sets; the Space Jockey in the
derelict spacecraft is one of the most awe-inspiring and intriguing
visuals ever on film (looking forward to Prometheus to finally
discover all about this strange being) and of course the introduction
of the iconic, grotesque yet strangely hideously beautiful Alien
itself.
Significant dropoff with the third one, crappy looking CGI Alien and i
didn't like how Hicks and Newt were killed off straight away although
i guess that set the tone for what actually makes it a pretty cool
film: the utter bleak hopelessness of it all; an isolated prison
planet with no chance of escape and Ripley's impending and unavoidable
doom. No happy endings here, very dark.
Resurrection had some interesting scenes and ideas, i liked the lab
with the failed Ripley clones and the human/alien hybrid was ok
although i know Giger hated it and dismissed it as looking like a turd
lol. But i dunno overall this installment just felt kinda flat to me.
AvPs were pretty much garbage. I liked some stuff about the first one,
the stuff with the ancient pyramids and human sacrifice xeno breeding
by the Predators and the one on one xeno/Predator fight scene was cool
but overall it just wasn't engaging.
And Requiem had no character builds so i didn't care when people just
started getting slaughtered left and right and the gimmicky
'PredAlien' (surely 'Alienator' would've been cooler?) wasn't enough
to save it. Just not enough story and characterization, also s***ty
quick-cut editing ruined the fight scenes but the biggest issue was
the lighting or rather the complete lack of it.
« Reply #4 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:02pm »
Aliens by a mile. The first one is good, but there are points where it
just drags. The second one really doesn't slow down once it gets
going.
Never mention Resurrection to me.
« Reply #5 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:08pm »
the one with the guns
« Reply #6 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:13pm »
Dec 20, 2011, 9:01pm, Death Star Egg!! wrote:
Significant dropoff with the third one, crappy looking CGI Alien
The only CGI in the film was the alien's head cracking near the end
and some extra shadows Amalgamated Dynamics added for the SE release.
The rest was a blue screened rod puppet.
Alien is my all time favourite movie. I dunno, I prefer Alien3 to
Aliens after how much Cameron dumbed everything down. Hell, Alien
Resurrection has more depth than Aliens.
« Reply #7 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:20pm via the ProBoards Mobile App »
Alien is the best one for me, but I love Resurrection purely for the
cast.
« Reply #8 on Dec 20, 2011, 11:37pm »
Alien by far. I actually hate Aliens more than any of the other ones.
Its a good action film I suppose but I fell in love with the tension
and horror of the first one. Adding more booms and baddies doesn't
really make something better to me.
« Reply #9 Yesterday at 10:46am »
They are all pretty good but I watch the first AVP the most so take
that for what you will.
And this will sound like blasphemy to some, but I find the original
overrated. Yes, it is good, yes it is a product of it's time, and yes
I appreciate the slow build, but the movie is just a little TOO slow.
They could have shaved about 15-20 minutes off of the movie, and it
would have had the same effect without being tiring at points.
« Reply #10 Yesterday at 11:07am »
Aliens is my all time favorite movie, but it can't really be compared
to the original. The first is a horror/sci-fi and the second is
primarily an action movie, so it all comes down to which genre you
prefer. I prefer the faster pace of the sequel, the expansion on
Ripley, and the characters Hicks, Hudson, and Vasquez. It's just more
fun to watch than the original.
Everything else on that list can go to hell.
« Reply #11 Yesterday at 2:30pm »
Aliens for me. It features my all-time favorite action movie one-
liner.
"Get away from her, you bitch!"
« Reply #12 Yesterday at 2:55pm »
The first one. I used to like Aliens more, but once I grew up, I
changed my mind.
« Reply #13 Yesterday at 7:48pm »
Yesterday at 11:07am, Arrow wrote:
Aliens is my all time favorite movie, but it can't really be compared
to the original. The first is a horror/sci-fi and the second is
primarily an action movie, so it all comes down to which genre you
prefer. I prefer the faster pace of the sequel, the expansion on
Ripley, and the characters Hicks, Hudson, and Vasquez. It's just more
fun to watch than the original.
Everything else on that list can go to hell.
THIS.
Aliens is in my top three favourite movies, it's just an action
masterpiece. Alien is also pretty good, but a very different film as
you said.
I like to pretend the rest don't exist. I'm a big fan of Predator 1
and 2 as well as the Aliens vs Predator comics, but the AVP films are
complete garbage. Predators sucked as well.
« Reply #15 Today at 12:44am »
A tough question, I loved both Alien and Aliens equally but for
different reasons. Now number four & three on the other hand......
« Thread Started on Dec 19, 2011, 2:50pm »
I am a big fan of the Alien franchise. The thing I love is how
incredibly unique and original the whole theme was at the time the
first movie was released. The alien itself looked like nothing I had
ever seen before, and the whole process with the face-huggers, chest
burters, and full grown monster hit on all the right levels to make it
frightening. I'm also a fan of Sigourney Weaver, and consider Ripley
to be her best character. I hope I'm not alone, and am curios to see
which movie everyone here favors. Personally, I think the second
movie, Aliens, was probably the best of the series. Even though the
first established it, the second one developed the story the most-you
learned that the aliens operate like a hive, and you saw the queen for
the first time. Ripley also developed the most in that particular
film, turning into the badass heroine we all know her as now. But I
also have a soft spot for Alien Resurrection, because I think it just
had a terrific cast and I loved the whole Newborn sub-plot. Anyone got
anything else to add?
« Reply #1 on Dec 19, 2011, 3:10pm »
The first one.
« Reply #2 on Dec 19, 2011, 3:18pm »
The first one, easily. It had incredible tension and build throughout,
creating a perfect atmosphere. They knew exactly how much to show you
of the alien to make that final reveal even scarier. It is, in my
mind, the perfect horror film.
The second one just turned the franchise it into a more generic action
series. They did get a lot right, sure, but it didn't have near the
level of tension because it was the same thing we'd seen before, just
set in the Alien universe.
The third one had promise and got back to the initial roots. I liked
it better than the second, but even though I didn't like the direction
2 took, I disliked how they killed off everyone off-screen before the
movie began even more.
Beyond that, it just went downhill.
« Reply #3 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:01pm »
I wrote my reply to this yesterday only for that f***ing ProBoards
update s*** to appear when i tried to post it. Grrrrrrr that stupid
bitch needs a facehugger on her! See if i can remember what i wrote...
I like Aliens best. Great characters, great action, more xenos and we
get to see a queen. Amazing tension as well with the motion trackers,
with every blip you were anticipating with dread hordes of the deadly
creatures approaching for the kill.
The original is a close second. Great atmosphere, classic scenes such
as the chestbursting sequence, amazing sets; the Space Jockey in the
derelict spacecraft is one of the most awe-inspiring and intriguing
visuals ever on film (looking forward to Prometheus to finally
discover all about this strange being) and of course the introduction
of the iconic, grotesque yet strangely hideously beautiful Alien
itself.
Significant dropoff with the third one, crappy looking CGI Alien and i
didn't like how Hicks and Newt were killed off straight away although
i guess that set the tone for what actually makes it a pretty cool
film: the utter bleak hopelessness of it all; an isolated prison
planet with no chance of escape and Ripley's impending and unavoidable
doom. No happy endings here, very dark.
Resurrection had some interesting scenes and ideas, i liked the lab
with the failed Ripley clones and the human/alien hybrid was ok
although i know Giger hated it and dismissed it as looking like a turd
lol. But i dunno overall this installment just felt kinda flat to me.
AvPs were pretty much garbage. I liked some stuff about the first one,
the stuff with the ancient pyramids and human sacrifice xeno breeding
by the Predators and the one on one xeno/Predator fight scene was cool
but overall it just wasn't engaging.
And Requiem had no character builds so i didn't care when people just
started getting slaughtered left and right and the gimmicky
'PredAlien' (surely 'Alienator' would've been cooler?) wasn't enough
to save it. Just not enough story and characterization, also s***ty
quick-cut editing ruined the fight scenes but the biggest issue was
the lighting or rather the complete lack of it.
« Reply #4 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:02pm »
Aliens by a mile. The first one is good, but there are points where it
just drags. The second one really doesn't slow down once it gets
going.
Never mention Resurrection to me.
« Reply #5 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:08pm »
the one with the guns
« Reply #6 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:13pm »
Dec 20, 2011, 9:01pm, Death Star Egg!! wrote:
Significant dropoff with the third one, crappy looking CGI Alien
The only CGI in the film was the alien's head cracking near the end
and some extra shadows Amalgamated Dynamics added for the SE release.
The rest was a blue screened rod puppet.
Alien is my all time favourite movie. I dunno, I prefer Alien3 to
Aliens after how much Cameron dumbed everything down. Hell, Alien
Resurrection has more depth than Aliens.
« Reply #7 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:20pm via the ProBoards Mobile App »
Alien is the best one for me, but I love Resurrection purely for the
cast.
« Reply #8 on Dec 20, 2011, 11:37pm »
Alien by far. I actually hate Aliens more than any of the other ones.
Its a good action film I suppose but I fell in love with the tension
and horror of the first one. Adding more booms and baddies doesn't
really make something better to me.
« Reply #9 Yesterday at 10:46am »
They are all pretty good but I watch the first AVP the most so take
that for what you will.
And this will sound like blasphemy to some, but I find the original
overrated. Yes, it is good, yes it is a product of it's time, and yes
I appreciate the slow build, but the movie is just a little TOO slow.
They could have shaved about 15-20 minutes off of the movie, and it
would have had the same effect without being tiring at points.
« Reply #10 Yesterday at 11:07am »
Aliens is my all time favorite movie, but it can't really be compared
to the original. The first is a horror/sci-fi and the second is
primarily an action movie, so it all comes down to which genre you
prefer. I prefer the faster pace of the sequel, the expansion on
Ripley, and the characters Hicks, Hudson, and Vasquez. It's just more
fun to watch than the original.
Everything else on that list can go to hell.
« Reply #11 Yesterday at 2:30pm »
Aliens for me. It features my all-time favorite action movie one-
liner.
"Get away from her, you bitch!"
« Reply #12 Yesterday at 2:55pm »
The first one. I used to like Aliens more, but once I grew up, I
changed my mind.
« Reply #13 Yesterday at 7:48pm »
Yesterday at 11:07am, Arrow wrote:
Aliens is my all time favorite movie, but it can't really be compared
to the original. The first is a horror/sci-fi and the second is
primarily an action movie, so it all comes down to which genre you
prefer. I prefer the faster pace of the sequel, the expansion on
Ripley, and the characters Hicks, Hudson, and Vasquez. It's just more
fun to watch than the original.
Everything else on that list can go to hell.
THIS.
Aliens is in my top three favourite movies, it's just an action
masterpiece. Alien is also pretty good, but a very different film as
you said.
I like to pretend the rest don't exist. I'm a big fan of Predator 1
and 2 as well as the Aliens vs Predator comics, but the AVP films are
complete garbage. Predators sucked as well.
« Reply #15 Today at 12:44am »
A tough question, I loved both Alien and Aliens equally but for
different reasons. Now number four & three on the other hand......