Who/What Was/Is "Yahweh"/"Jehovah"?

n***@nowhere.net

2005-05-15 15:35:00 UTC

I know this is very off topic here but I just couldn't resist. Now do the same
thing with Satan.

1. God tells Adam and Eve if they mess around with a certain tree they'll die
the day they do. Satan tells them they won't. So they do and they still live but
god gets very angry.
2. God gathers everyone together for a huge meeting. Satan stands up during the
meeting and tells god that his buddy Job wouldn't be so devoted if he hadn't
given him all those things. God tells Satan to take away all those things and
see if he loses his devotion. After he doesn't Satan says if you really do him a
job he will. God tells Satan to do him a job. After all is said and done Job
still doesn't turn away from god. Satan has egg on his face but then the cards
were stacked against him anyway since Job would have figured that god would have
made it up to him afterwards even if just to prove Satan wrong. If those bad
things had happened any other way and god could have saved face he probably
would have told Job to stick it and quit whining.
3. Satan tells Jesus he'll give him the earth if he worships him. Jesus
declines. Makes me wonder if he thought Satan could overthrow god who he'd
really be serving. But was this deal actually evil? Who got hurt?

If you can ignore all the parts where someone else says he's evil and just
concentrate on the times where he actually appears himself so you can evaluate
his actions he doesn't look as bad as he's painted.

If we assume god is a spaceship captain and Satan is the second in command
perhaps they haven't shown their faces around here in so many centuries because

1. Mutiny.
2. They went away. Back home probably.

Could be the reason he's painted as being evil is that he failed at his mutiny.
But it sounds to me like the judgement wasn't returned at the time. What if some
galactic judges council decided in his favor? God doesn't seem to me to be so
benevolent and Satan doesn't seem so evil.

Post by Michael
Who/What Was/Is "Yahweh"/"Jehovah"?
http://www.universalway.org/anyout.html#Yahweh/Jehovah
Just who/what was/is the entity known as "Yahweh"/"Jehovah" in the Old
Testament of the Bible?
Some people will claim that "Yahweh"/"Jehovah" was/is God/G-d, and that his
word was/is the word of God/G-d. Those people are usually devout
Jews/Christians/Muslims.
But what would, let's say, Captains Kirk and Picard of the Starship
Enterprise (Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation) think about the
entity "Yahweh"/"Jehovah"? And what if we were to ask, let's say, FBI
Special Agents Fox Mulder and Dana Scully (X-Files) the question "Who/What
Was/Is "Yahweh"/"Jehovah"?," and asked them to work up a personality profile
constructed from an intelligence analysis perspective, of the entity known
as "Yahweh"/"Jehovah" in the Old Testament of the Bible, such profile to be
provided to Captains Kirk/Picard some time in the future for appropriate
action?
In order to construct such a profile, the agents would necessarily compile a
list of the instructions/actions of the subject, and this list, in order to
be objectively/diligently studied, must be of a general/non-specific nature,
indicating nothing that would directly lead people who would study the
profile (such as Kirk/Picard) to conclude that the subject was
"Yahweh"/"Jehovah" of the Old Testament.
Some of the sample entries in such a list compiled from the Old Testament by
Special Agents Mulder/Scully for intelligence analysis of the personality
profile of "Yahweh"/"Jehovah" might read as follows (not necessarily in
* Instructed his charges to construct a device which when constructed today,
is a radio receiver.
* Instructed his charges to take the constructed device into a secret room
and listen for further instructions.
* Instructed his charges to embark upon a long journey leading them into
occupied territories.
* Instructed his charges to war upon the indigenous inhabitants of a
territory, committing genocide upon the inhabitants and occupying and
possessing all of their lands and property.
* Instructed the leader of his charges to kill his son, then changed the
instructions so that the sons of all his charges should be mutilated at
birth.
Obviously, there would be entries which also described the benevolent
instructions/actions of the subject (such as the Ten Commandments), but
Special Agents Mulder/Scully, being good intelligence agents, would know
that misinformation/disinformation designed to destabilize and destroy a
society must come in the ratio of at least 60% truth and good advice to 40%
lie and bad advice, and the Special Agents, being wise/rational humans,
would be able to separate the benevolent instructions/actions of
"Yahweh"/"Jehovah" from the malicious instructions/actions, and would
determine that sufficient evidence existed to conclude that only a half
portion of the instructions/actions of "Yahweh"/"Jehovah" were of any
short-term/long-term benefit to those who would follow such instructions,
leading the agents to conclude that "Yahweh"/"Jehovah" was an entity that
was spreading misinformation/disinformation to his charges/people.
Continued objective analysis of the personality profile of
"Yahweh"/"Jehovah" by Special Agents Mulder/Scully would lead them (well, at
least, Mulder) to the conclusion that, from all of the
information/intelligence available to the analysts, the entity known as
"Yahweh"/"Jehovah" was much more likely a malevolent extraterrestrial alien
political/military intelligence/governor than any real benevolent/loving
God/G-d. Such conclusion would not be taken lightly by Captains Kirk/Picard,
and their own personal experiences would feed into Agent Mulder's
conclusion.