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Sequel to Alien
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Sandman
2006-04-02 17:19:57 UTC
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I've heard a rumor that there may be a sequel to Alien in the works.
Alien by Ridley Scott is a superb movie and a sequel may not be
necessary, but still quite interesting.

Rumor has it that it's Terminator-director James Cameron that is
slated to direct it, which is interesting. He's more of an hands-on
action kind of director if you ask me.

So, what do you think about it? What will become of it, who will star
and what's the storyline? Some rumors say Ripley is in the sequel as
well, and that they will return to the Alien homeworld.

What do you think would be the best sequel?
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Tracy
2006-04-02 17:36:35 UTC
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Post by Sandman
I've heard a rumor that there may be a sequel to Alien in the works.
Alien by Ridley Scott is a superb movie and a sequel may not be
necessary, but still quite interesting.
Rumor has it that it's Terminator-director James Cameron that is
slated to direct it, which is interesting. He's more of an hands-on
action kind of director if you ask me.
So, what do you think about it? What will become of it, who will star
and what's the storyline? Some rumors say Ripley is in the sequel as
well, and that they will return to the Alien homeworld.
What do you think would be the best sequel?
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Sandman[.net]
So....... Ripley wakes up earlier than the 57 years she is asleep to
battle more aliens, *before* ending up in Aliens?? Or are they going
to completely disregard Aliens, A3 and AR(se)??
Sandman
2006-04-02 22:04:07 UTC
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Post by Tracy
Post by Sandman
I've heard a rumor that there may be a sequel to Alien in the works.
Alien by Ridley Scott is a superb movie and a sequel may not be
necessary, but still quite interesting.
Rumor has it that it's Terminator-director James Cameron that is
slated to direct it, which is interesting. He's more of an hands-on
action kind of director if you ask me.
So, what do you think about it? What will become of it, who will star
and what's the storyline? Some rumors say Ripley is in the sequel as
well, and that they will return to the Alien homeworld.
What do you think would be the best sequel?
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Sandman[.net]
So....... Ripley wakes up earlier than the 57 years she is asleep to
battle more aliens, *before* ending up in Aliens?? Or are they going
to completely disregard Aliens, A3 and AR(se)??
Aaaaw, come on Tracy! It was supposed to be fun and seem to take place
before Aliens ever was released.... Guess I *should* have posted a
smiley :)

What if my post was posted in 1984 or something. :)
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Sandman[.net]
Tracy
2006-04-03 16:41:20 UTC
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Post by Sandman
Post by Tracy
Post by Sandman
I've heard a rumor that there may be a sequel to Alien in the works.
Alien by Ridley Scott is a superb movie and a sequel may not be
necessary, but still quite interesting.
Rumor has it that it's Terminator-director James Cameron that is
slated to direct it, which is interesting. He's more of an hands-on
action kind of director if you ask me.
So, what do you think about it? What will become of it, who will star
and what's the storyline? Some rumors say Ripley is in the sequel as
well, and that they will return to the Alien homeworld.
What do you think would be the best sequel?
--
Sandman[.net]
So....... Ripley wakes up earlier than the 57 years she is asleep to
battle more aliens, *before* ending up in Aliens?? Or are they going
to completely disregard Aliens, A3 and AR(se)??
Aaaaw, come on Tracy! It was supposed to be fun and seem to take place
before Aliens ever was released.... Guess I *should* have posted a
smiley :)
What if my post was posted in 1984 or something. :)
Sorry - didnt mean to piss on your fireworks LOL
Sandman
2006-04-03 17:19:21 UTC
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Post by Tracy
Post by Sandman
Post by Tracy
Post by Sandman
I've heard a rumor that there may be a sequel to Alien in the works.
Alien by Ridley Scott is a superb movie and a sequel may not be
necessary, but still quite interesting.
Rumor has it that it's Terminator-director James Cameron that is
slated to direct it, which is interesting. He's more of an hands-on
action kind of director if you ask me.
So, what do you think about it? What will become of it, who will star
and what's the storyline? Some rumors say Ripley is in the sequel as
well, and that they will return to the Alien homeworld.
What do you think would be the best sequel?
--
Sandman[.net]
So....... Ripley wakes up earlier than the 57 years she is asleep to
battle more aliens, *before* ending up in Aliens?? Or are they going
to completely disregard Aliens, A3 and AR(se)??
Aaaaw, come on Tracy! It was supposed to be fun and seem to take place
before Aliens ever was released.... Guess I *should* have posted a
smiley :)
What if my post was posted in 1984 or something. :)
Sorry - didnt mean to piss on your fireworks LOL
Hehe, now I have to dry it up before I can shoot it again :)
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Sandman[.net]
w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-03 13:16:11 UTC
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Well, sure, I'm excited about the prospect of a sequel and I wish that
Ridley were able to make the sequel because he does want to, and did
ever since the release of Alien. I don't know what to say about this
James Cameron fellow, because as a person somewhere in that time period
of the 1980s, I haven't seen this Terminator film.

But it would be great to revisit the derelict and have Giger expand on
the design of the derelict interior and also design an entirely new
Alien creature because although I loved the alien monster in Alien, I
don't want to see another shot of a not particularily tall stuntman in
an Alien suit.

But the idea of the Alien race which the space jockey belongs to does
interest me, and if they explored the derelict interior a little more,
I wonder what they might find.

Dom
w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-03 13:27:36 UTC
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Actually another thing that interests me is the painting Alien Monster
IV in Giger's Alien book. I don't quite know what it is supposed to be,
but there is this large looking creature with an elongated head, and an
egg tube curling around from behind it ending with perhaps a spore and
this creature, if that thing it's fingering is a spore, must be huge,
but although the spores were supposed to be manufactured by something
like a transformation of the alien's victims or some kind of growth
around them. I don't know what I should dare think, but what if they
had a huge egg laying alien, that sounds like a bad excuse for one of
Dan O'Bannon's chicken jokes. Who could imagine doing that in a film?
But maybe an Alien that quickly creates readily made spores might be
interesting although I don't think the egg tube in the picture was
literally connected to that alien because I know what it is in relation
to the silo of the original Giger's Alien book.

But I suppose one of the things in the book by A. D. Foster is the
discussion about what a mass of the Alien creatures can do working
together.

Dom
Sandman
2006-04-03 14:18:49 UTC
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Actually another thing that interests me is the painting Alien Monster
IV in Giger's Alien book. I don't quite know what it is supposed to be,
but there is this large looking creature with an elongated head, and an
egg tube curling around from behind it ending with perhaps a spore and
this creature, if that thing it's fingering is a spore, must be huge,
but although the spores were supposed to be manufactured by something
like a transformation of the alien's victims or some kind of growth
around them. I don't know what I should dare think, but what if they
had a huge egg laying alien, that sounds like a bad excuse for one of
Dan O'Bannon's chicken jokes. Who could imagine doing that in a film?
But maybe an Alien that quickly creates readily made spores might be
interesting although I don't think the egg tube in the picture was
literally connected to that alien because I know what it is in relation
to the silo of the original Giger's Alien book.
You mean something like a "queen" (think ants) alien that lays eggs?
Or am I misunderstanding you? Queen ants are both larger and stronger
than regular ants, so it could be cool as well.
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w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-03 14:53:24 UTC
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I haven't got too much of a clue at the moment, because well this thing
in Alien Monster IV looks almost like it has an ovipositor curling
around the back of it's body and if you incorporated that into the
design, I am not sure which part of the body it would come from, but
then this alien monster has some strange things coming out of it's
back.

But Scott talked about the alien silo being something like a beehive,
and somehow it would boil down to Alien Monster IV being perhaps a
mass spore creating biomechanoid machine organism. I wish Giger has
shown us more of this creature from other angles although it might not
be something so though out.

I don't like to think though so specifically about the aliens being
like an insect nest, because they ought to be ETs with an entirely
alien biology. I wonder if this creature Alien Monster IV might be
something that came out of the space jockey because something that grew
from that giant victim's chestburster would be something very huge. I
might have more ideas about it being like an insect colony. I'll have
to take a look at some other insects, maybe a variety of them. I tend
to think though that an alien monster of this type should only grow as
big as it's host otherwise it might find itself growing out of
proportion with the environment in which it is living. If the alien in
Alien had grown to something space jockey sized, it might have been
having a lot of trouble running around the human's ship

Dom
Sandman
2006-04-03 14:17:11 UTC
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Post by w***@yahoo.com
Well, sure, I'm excited about the prospect of a sequel and I wish that
Ridley were able to make the sequel because he does want to, and did
ever since the release of Alien. I don't know what to say about this
James Cameron fellow, because as a person somewhere in that time period
of the 1980s, I haven't seen this Terminator film.
But it would be great to revisit the derelict and have Giger expand on
the design of the derelict interior and also design an entirely new
Alien creature because although I loved the alien monster in Alien, I
don't want to see another shot of a not particularily tall stuntman in
an Alien suit.
But the idea of the Alien race which the space jockey belongs to does
interest me, and if they explored the derelict interior a little more,
I wonder what they might find.
Good ideas all of them. I'm curious if maybe the alien being shot of
the life boat might not have been the end of it - what if it somehow
laid an egg there? And the ship is going back to earth I presume. It
could get very interesting that as well.

Either way, it's not like a sequel has to be made by Scott, even
though it may be closer to the original if it is. BUt a little new
thinking isn't always bad either. :)
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w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-03 15:06:38 UTC
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I wouldn't like to think too much about a sequel without Ridley Scott,
I am not sure who to really trust out there in the world of film makers
when it comes to films like this. There was that list of other film
makers that they wanted to hand the film to at the beginning

well, a spore being found on the ship lays out possibilities, that was
one of the ideas that they had thought about. There was also in the
storyboards an image of an alien hiding in a glass tube, and I don't
know what to think about that, that confused me. .

I'm not sure what to think about having a movie where the alien has
landed on Earth, but if they had a budget for something like
Bladerunner, it might be great if they could build a city like that and
have it invaded, but after looking at all the industrial pollution of
Bladerunner, who would want to bother saving that planet, since the
rest of the world were venturing off to other planets, mainly Mars. But
there are those films around where the whole world is being taken over
by a Virus and there are those few who think they can escape it in one
form or another, and there are those general disaster movies. I'm not
too keen on aliens invading planet earth because it sets itself up for
a film that wont work too well. I am more interested in exploring
mysteries rather than disaster movies. I haven't seen any of those
zombies take over the world films and maybe I wouldn't want to. But if
you're going to have a lot of aliens, you're going to need lots of
different designs for the different aliens, because I think it would
look awful if there were aliens running around and in the end, they're
all the same bloody one. That seems to hokey for me. I would like all
of them to be slightlly noticeably different in some way.




But if an alien were to be found in the vessel in a spore form, I
suppose there would be a chance that the Company gets hold of it and u
w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-03 15:10:38 UTC
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Sandman said: BUt a little new thinking isn't always bad either. :)



well, I thought these ideas as they stand are radical enough for this
time. I don't know where you're coming from though, maybe you're
someone with his head stuck in the 21st century somewhere and people
like us still in the 80s are just doomed, obviously nothing is new
enough here.

Dom
Tracy
2006-04-03 16:34:57 UTC
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Post by w***@yahoo.com
But it would be great to revisit the derelict and have Giger expand on
the design of the derelict interior and also design an entirely new
Alien creature because although I loved the alien monster in Alien, I
don't want to see another shot of a not particularily tall stuntman in
an Alien suit.
Are you kidding? Bolaji Badejo was almost 7 feet tall!!!!!!!

And the derelict interior and Alien monster are completely and utterly
unique. Why change any of it?
w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-03 19:30:50 UTC
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well, I would like the design of the derelict expanded on. There is a
lot we don't know and understand about the structure and there was a
fair amount being explored in the concept work that never got into the
film or was a bit undecided still. I'd like to see more of the derelict
interior, or some similar structure's interior. I would like to see
perhaps an engine room and crews quarters in the derelict, however they
might be defined and also understand how the egg silo fits into the
structure of the derelict


I wonder if Bolaji has any family or relatives in this country of the
same race, they might be useful for more humanoid shaped aliens

But here we are somewhere in the early mid-eighties and I am sure that
animatronics has come on a little since the late seventies, surely, and
maybe there is a way for actors to interact with animatrons without
being injured.. Giger would have loved to have designed a completely
new alien for the first movie but Scott said 'no', and quite honestely,
we've seen the alien in that movie, why do we need to see it all over
again.

I have been having ideas about having a cluster of gravity defying
biomechanoids that somehow interlink with one another, as if their
limbs are connected by sliding mechanisms or they're limbs and
appendages are piercing one another in a manner to create a firm
connection and so some of these creatures are floating in the air while
linked onto the ones connected to the ground, and maybe they could be
like a Giger painting, so you're never quite sure where one creature's
body begins and another ends, and I am exploring this in storyboard
drawing these days. And maybe theyr'e behaving like a swarm of gnats.
Maybe the creatures are as close together as the creatures in the
painting Alien Monster II on page 3 of Giger's Alien book,
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also serve inspiration for my cluster of biomechanoids, the first one
being more like what I want than the others

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and the way these bodies fit together in a machine like way
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I don't know how this could be achieved, but maybe in the future
technology might become advanced enough. But who knows, if James
Cameron is really to direct the sequel to Alien, we'll see if he has
caught onto any of this already. I shouldn't jump to any conclusions
about his film even before he makes it. I however certainly hope that
he manages to hire H. R. Giger because I think it will lack something
otherwise

Dom
swarvegorilla
2006-04-09 01:23:19 UTC
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I wanna see the alien universe opened up more with different species.
The name 'aliens' does after all give you a certain ability to just keep
adding new creatures.
Most new fans even regard the predators as aliens now.
So yep keep moving forward adding new races until we get a brutal new cosmos
populated by savage creatures that can then be adapted to sweet new video
games.......
Post by w***@yahoo.com
well, I would like the design of the derelict expanded on. There is a
lot we don't know and understand about the structure and there was a
fair amount being explored in the concept work that never got into the
film or was a bit undecided still. I'd like to see more of the derelict
interior, or some similar structure's interior. I would like to see
perhaps an engine room and crews quarters in the derelict, however they
might be defined and also understand how the egg silo fits into the
structure of the derelict
I wonder if Bolaji has any family or relatives in this country of the
same race, they might be useful for more humanoid shaped aliens
But here we are somewhere in the early mid-eighties and I am sure that
animatronics has come on a little since the late seventies, surely, and
maybe there is a way for actors to interact with animatrons without
being injured.. Giger would have loved to have designed a completely
new alien for the first movie but Scott said 'no', and quite honestely,
we've seen the alien in that movie, why do we need to see it all over
again.
I have been having ideas about having a cluster of gravity defying
biomechanoids that somehow interlink with one another, as if their
limbs are connected by sliding mechanisms or they're limbs and
appendages are piercing one another in a manner to create a firm
connection and so some of these creatures are floating in the air while
linked onto the ones connected to the ground, and maybe they could be
like a Giger painting, so you're never quite sure where one creature's
body begins and another ends, and I am exploring this in storyboard
drawing these days. And maybe theyr'e behaving like a swarm of gnats.
Maybe the creatures are as close together as the creatures in the
painting Alien Monster II on page 3 of Giger's Alien book,
(http://michalovski.free.fr/scan/407.jpg) and these paintings would
also serve inspiration for my cluster of biomechanoids, the first one
being more like what I want than the others
http://michalovski.free.fr/scan/258.jpg
http://michalovski.free.fr/scan/416.jpg
http://michalovski.free.fr/scan/347.jpg
and the way these bodies fit together in a machine like way
http://michalovski.free.fr/scan/312.jpg
I don't know how this could be achieved, but maybe in the future
technology might become advanced enough. But who knows, if James
Cameron is really to direct the sequel to Alien, we'll see if he has
caught onto any of this already. I shouldn't jump to any conclusions
about his film even before he makes it. I however certainly hope that
he manages to hire H. R. Giger because I think it will lack something
otherwise
Dom
w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-03 20:22:02 UTC
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I like the idea of perhaps trench warfare on a planet taken over by
humans between the an Earth army and offworld rebels, and the human
armies and the trenches are inspired a bit by World War One trenches,
and really the soldiers are stuck there without a valuable reasons. The
ground of the planet is made up from biomechanoid forms all compressed
together, and suddenly the ground comes alive and out of the trench
walls come out biomechanoid monsters, suddenly the human soldiers
disappear, and perhaps people are sent to find out what happened to
them. They discover some survivors who know nothing but turn out to be
android spies who secretly have a biological samples that they want to
return to Earth for further examination
swarvegorilla
2006-04-09 01:24:09 UTC
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Post by w***@yahoo.com
I like the idea of perhaps trench warfare on a planet taken over by
humans between the an Earth army and offworld rebels, and the human
armies and the trenches are inspired a bit by World War One trenches,
and really the soldiers are stuck there without a valuable reasons. The
ground of the planet is made up from biomechanoid forms all compressed
together, and suddenly the ground comes alive and out of the trench
walls come out biomechanoid monsters, suddenly the human soldiers
disappear, and perhaps people are sent to find out what happened to
them. They discover some survivors who know nothing but turn out to be
android spies who secretly have a biological samples that they want to
return to Earth for further examination
that could work
w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-26 11:18:17 UTC
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I keep trying to storyboard glimpses of this vision I'm having
w***@yahoo.com
2006-04-27 12:40:44 UTC
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I said earlier: "I keep trying to storyboard glimpses of this vision
I'm having"


I'll post a link when I am satisfied with the work I've done. What I am
doing is being inspired by Ridley Scott's storyboards and his method of
adapting ideas from Giger's works, the Metal Hurlant style and so on.
So it is great way for me to go exploring since I love Scott's way of
storyboarding. I think though that it will a case of showing a few
snapshots rather than anything coherently being understood
swarvegorilla
2006-05-05 11:47:15 UTC
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Post by w***@yahoo.com
I said earlier: "I keep trying to storyboard glimpses of this vision
I'm having"
I'll post a link when I am satisfied with the work I've done. What I am
doing is being inspired by Ridley Scott's storyboards and his method of
adapting ideas from Giger's works, the Metal Hurlant style and so on.
So it is great way for me to go exploring since I love Scott's way of
storyboarding. I think though that it will a case of showing a few
snapshots rather than anything coherently being understood
rockin'
then we can all suggest the wrong way to take it.
:-)
Muahahahhaha.
I mean we won't try too it's just human nature and the governments secret
program to hide UFO's from us
w***@yahoo.com
2006-05-05 19:40:13 UTC
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Sandman said : "rockin'
then we can all suggest the wrong way to take it.
:-)
Muahahahhaha.
I mean we won't try too it's just human nature and the governments
secret
program to hide UFO's from us"




this is good to know, The confusion is always good

Dom
swarvegorilla
2006-05-05 22:01:37 UTC
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Post by w***@yahoo.com
Sandman said : "rockin'
then we can all suggest the wrong way to take it.
:-)
Muahahahhaha.
I mean we won't try too it's just human nature and the governments secret
program to hide UFO's from us"
this is good to know, The confusion is always good
Dom
Confusion?
Oh god what have you heard now?
This is it isn't it?
He's coming back and we are all gonna be judged!
Thats it I'm gonna burn all my money as a show of faith.
Ok so I'm gonna spend it on an xbox 360 but the premise is the same.
Looking forward ta having a read dude, if I can just get these spiders off
my face........

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