S.E.E.D.

[Covenant]

Downloaded it.

DVD-d it.

Watched it

Discarded it.



Bloody awful.

[Tracy]

I've downloaded it - now all I need to do is think about actually
watching it!
After all, Cov's comments can make an impression! :)

[w***@yahoo.com]

I have forgotten was S.E.E.D. was already

[swarvegorilla]

Post by w***@yahoo.com
I have forgotten was S.E.E.D. was already

I was gonna have the surgery too but couldn't afford it.

[Robert]

Hey, I'm back! :)

Well...it certainly had problems, didn't it?

I think the two biggest problems were:

1. The script (I'll ditto Cov's 'bloody awful' for that)
2. Huge gaping holes in continuity (which could cause 1, above.)

3. just pretty bad acting...mostly.

The editing and sound were good (mostly), a lot of the photography was
great, most of the costuming was excellent.

I think somebody had the incredibly stupid idea to cut time by using
the interesting title sequence to tell a lot of the story...but that
doesn't work over/under the credits. Ever. At all. (See Frankenheimer's
DVD commentary on The Manchurian Candidate.) So, whatever coherence
that might have added, got lost.

The absolutely incoherent in sound quality, setting and acting of the
whole Weyland/Yutani merger thingy (I think I'm lucky to have figured
out that much). How hard could it have been to find a proper boardroom
instead of a picnic table? Yeesh. Or at least set up we're at some posh
country estate and not Uncle Bob's goat farm.

The whole 2-man swat team idea - nobody's gonna buy that, and those two
guys, well. I think the only human character who came close to
believable was the ol' general dude. All the bits with aliens and preds
worked ok for me (hinting at a dialogue/story problem here, I think.)
Pretty good (if inaccurate) work on pred-vision, too. However,
everything about getting those two guys into the story was pretty
pathetic.

Sound: well, it's not hard to beat Hollywood in that regard these days;
apparently the sound mixer/editor hasn't gone deaf. Yet.

Re-work the script, add about 10 minutes of coherent back-story, toss
in about a year of rehearsal and it might go somewhere.

[Covenant]

Post by Robert
Hey, I'm back! :)
Well...it certainly had problems, didn't it?
1. The script (I'll ditto Cov's 'bloody awful' for that)
2. Huge gaping holes in continuity (which could cause 1, above.)
3. just pretty bad acting...mostly.
The editing and sound were good (mostly), a lot of the photography was
great, most of the costuming was excellent.
I think somebody had the incredibly stupid idea to cut time by using
the interesting title sequence to tell a lot of the story...but that
doesn't work over/under the credits. Ever. At all. (See Frankenheimer's
DVD commentary on The Manchurian Candidate.) So, whatever coherence
that might have added, got lost.
The absolutely incoherent in sound quality, setting and acting of the
whole Weyland/Yutani merger thingy (I think I'm lucky to have figured
out that much). How hard could it have been to find a proper boardroom
instead of a picnic table? Yeesh. Or at least set up we're at some posh
country estate and not Uncle Bob's goat farm.
The whole 2-man swat team idea - nobody's gonna buy that, and those two
guys, well. I think the only human character who came close to
believable was the ol' general dude. All the bits with aliens and preds
worked ok for me (hinting at a dialogue/story problem here, I think.)
Pretty good (if inaccurate) work on pred-vision, too. However,
everything about getting those two guys into the story was pretty
pathetic.
Sound: well, it's not hard to beat Hollywood in that regard these days;
apparently the sound mixer/editor hasn't gone deaf. Yet.
Re-work the script, add about 10 minutes of coherent back-story, toss
in about a year of rehearsal and it might go somewhere.

Saves me from saying anything really!!

;' ))

Other than some of the camera work was pretty dodgy and the editing a bit
rough in places.

[Robert]

[don't have quoting sorted in Google yet; sorry. :) ]

Post by Covenant
Other than some of the camera work was pretty dodgy and the editing a bit
rough in places.

Yeah, a bit. If I can stand it, I may watch it again and try to figure
out if that was a 'second unit' problem or what, because a lot of it
was actually pretty good.

Re: the editing - I'm ready to put that down to the huge chunks of
missing story that apparently got whacked, probably due to budget. A
ton of the story is buried under the opening credits.

Well, they certainly were an enthusiastic lot, eh?

Speaking of enthusiastic....I remember when that CorpralHicks lad
showed up with his story ideas and scripts. Look at him now,
interviewing the hot mega-babes of SF, like Jeanette Goldstein. :) :)
:) Good on him!

[h***@alienexperience.com]

Robert wrote:
Re-work the script, add about 10 minutes of coherent back-story, toss
in about a year of rehearsal and it might go somewhere.

You're kidding, right? It took them over 2 years to get what we got, I
doubt Pete was ready to toss away another year of his life, and
probably another $5000 or so just to please us. He had an idea of what
he wanted the film to be, realized that was never going to happen for
various reasons, cut his losses and put out what he had. Considering, I
think it was pretty damn well done. Costumes rocked. FX rocked. Music
was good, sound not so good. Acting was above average for fan films.
Sure, the story lacked a bit, that was a natural by-product of the fact
only 40% of his script was actually filmed. I was smart enough to piece
it together and figure out what the general idea was, though, didn't
think it was that hard to figure out. The only thing that left me a
little confused was the action sequence at the end that kind of jumped
around and had Predators fighting Predators, Aliens fighting Predators
in a waterfall, and humans dying all over the place. Up until that
point I understood exactly what was going on. He seemed to do a rush
job of editing which hurt the sound, that and the fact he was teaching
himself how to use Adobe Premiere as he did it, otherwise it was edited
fine. Even the use of the 'green-screen' was fairly seemless.

If you can show me a better fan film (and don't even mention Batman:
Dead End), I'd like to see it.

[Covenant]

Post by Robert
Re-work the script, add about 10 minutes of coherent back-story, toss
in about a year of rehearsal and it might go somewhere.
You're kidding, right? It took them over 2 years to get what we got, I
doubt Pete was ready to toss away another year of his life, and
probably another $5000 or so just to please us. He had an idea of what
he wanted the film to be, realized that was never going to happen for
various reasons, cut his losses and put out what he had. Considering, I
think it was pretty damn well done. Costumes rocked. FX rocked. Music
was good, sound not so good. Acting was above average for fan films.
Sure, the story lacked a bit, that was a natural by-product of the fact
only 40% of his script was actually filmed. I was smart enough to piece
it together and figure out what the general idea was, though, didn't
think it was that hard to figure out. The only thing that left me a
little confused was the action sequence at the end that kind of jumped
around and had Predators fighting Predators, Aliens fighting Predators
in a waterfall, and humans dying all over the place. Up until that
point I understood exactly what was going on. He seemed to do a rush
job of editing which hurt the sound, that and the fact he was teaching
himself how to use Adobe Premiere as he did it, otherwise it was edited
fine. Even the use of the 'green-screen' was fairly seemless.
Dead End), I'd like to see it.

You're missing the point.

I could show you a film that cost about £800 to make, runs to 22 mins, has a
cast of at least 12, a coherrent storyline and a lot better acting.

As for the above;

Costumes rocked?
Well, the predator costumes looked decent, the only time the alien looked
'good' was in the water when it wasn't so obviously a static *head*.
Music? Nothing special.
Script? Appaling.
Story? If there was one, I missed it.
Editing? Bad.

The green-screen, well, I never *noticed* anything that seemed green
screeny, so maybe that's a good thing!

;' )

[h***@alienexperience.com]

Covenant wrote:
I could show you a film that cost about £800 to make, runs to 22 mins,
has a cast of at least 12, a coherrent storyline and a lot better
acting.

Sooooo...what's stopping you? I'd like to see said film.

[Covenant]

<***@alienexperience.com> wrote in message news:***@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Covenant wrote:
I could show you a film that cost about £800 to make, runs to 22 mins,
has a cast of at least 12, a coherrent storyline and a lot better
acting.

Sooooo...what's stopping you? I'd like to see said film.



I'll get it down to a size that is both downloadable and still watchable,
not much server space y'ken !

But have a look here...

www.heraldfilms.co.uk

the trailer's there.

[h***@alienexperience.com]

And here I thought we we're talking Aliens fan films, not independant
films of any variety?

[Tracy]

Post by h***@alienexperience.com
And here I thought we we're talking Aliens fan films, not independant
films of any variety?

Give us something to discuss Alien/(s)/3/ARse wise and we may be able
to accomodate you!

But hey, we are film buffs in general, so a variety of films will be
discussed occasionally (well, because we have covered all aspects of
the Alien series!!!!) :)

[Adam Cameron]

Post by Tracy
Give us something to discuss Alien/(s)/3/ARse

... + AvP!

I liked AvP more than I liked A:R. And P, and P2 (close, on the second
one).

I watched about 3min of SEED before I switched off. It was *shite*.

I don't mean to disrespect the efforts and hard work of the makers of it,
but... well... what can I say? It's rubbish.

My recommendation for the film makers would be:
1) keep it up: you're obviously keen and have not-some-small drive to make
short films. This is a good thing.
2) as far as acting goes, start smaller and closer to home. It's easier to
act as something one's familiar with
3) aim lower. Walk before you think about running.

Post by Tracy
But hey, we are film buffs in general, so a variety of films will be
discussed occasionally

And rugby. Don't forget rugby.

[Tracy]

Post by Adam Cameron

Post by Tracy
Give us something to discuss Alien/(s)/3/ARse

... + AvP!

Oops! yeah! I *keep* forgetting to include that, I dont know why!!

Post by Adam Cameron
I liked AvP more than I liked A:R. And P, and P2 (close, on the second
one).

Yes, I liked AvP more than AR. But I cannot stand that fragmented,
flashing back and forth kinda effects done in a lot of films today,
where the opponents are battling each other but you cant quite keep
track on who's doing what, until one is dead! That effect was used in
all the battle scenes in AvP, and I hated it! Does anyone understand
what I mean?
Loved Predator (its a classic!) and even P2 - and although some people
seem to think Danny Glover was miscast in that film, I think it suited
him perfectly. A middle-aged, slightly puffed out cop battling against
high-techo hunter E.T.'s!

Post by Adam Cameron
I watched about 3min of SEED before I switched off. It was *shite*.

I didnt end up watching it at all!

Post by Adam Cameron
I don't mean to disrespect the efforts and hard work of the makers of it,
but... well... what can I say? It's rubbish.

There is another independant out there - watched it quite a few months
back but cant find the source to send a link - but will endeavour to.
<snipped gently>

Post by Adam Cameron

Post by Tracy
But hey, we are film buffs in general, so a variety of films will be
discussed occasionally

And rugby. Don't forget rugby.

Of course, da rugby!! :))) And holistic therapies!!!
:))))))))

[Robert]

Post by Tracy
I didnt end up watching it at all!

Heh. I watched it twice. Our nitwit SEED defender should have actually
read all the posts before he decided to start jumping down people's
throats. The acting sucked and the plot wound up on the cutting room
floor; that much is inarguable. Still better than AR:se, though.

And note how he keeps moving his goalposts - first he wants to be shown
a better fan film; then he wants a better Alien fan film; now he wants
me to _make_ the bloody thing!

Well....I'll military-advise a project, no charge.

[Tracy]

Post by Robert

Post by Tracy
I didnt end up watching it at all!

Heh. I watched it twice. Our nitwit SEED defender should have actually
read all the posts before he decided to start jumping down people's
throats. The acting sucked and the plot wound up on the cutting room
floor; that much is inarguable. Still better than AR:se, though.
And note how he keeps moving his goalposts - first he wants to be shown
a better fan film; then he wants a better Alien fan film; now he wants
me to _make_ the bloody thing!
Well....I'll military-advise a project, no charge.

I'll make the teas, coffees and shit-hot curries!! :))))

[Robert]

Post by Tracy
I'll make the teas, coffees and shit-hot curries!! :))))

Shrimp curry? Mmmmm. And chutney.

We'll need a keg of beer.

.

[Tracy]

Post by Robert

Post by Tracy
I'll make the teas, coffees and shit-hot curries!! :))))

Shrimp curry? Mmmmm. And chutney.

Yeah, prawn vindaloo is my speciality and its a myth about vindaloo
needing to scorch ya insides!! Mango chutney okay??

Oh and my roasted basmati dish - oh boy!!!!!!! :P

Post by Robert
We'll need a keg of beer.

Now ya talkin'!!!!!!!!!! :)))))

Post by Robert
.

[Covenant]

Post by Tracy

Post by Adam Cameron

Post by Tracy
Give us something to discuss Alien/(s)/3/ARse

... + AvP!

Oops! yeah! I *keep* forgetting to include that, I dont know why!!

Post by Adam Cameron
I liked AvP more than I liked A:R. And P, and P2 (close, on the second
one).

Yes, I liked AvP more than AR. But I cannot stand that fragmented,
flashing back and forth kinda effects done in a lot of films today,
where the opponents are battling each other but you cant quite keep
track on who's doing what, until one is dead! That effect was used in
all the battle scenes in AvP, and I hated it! Does anyone understand
what I mean?

Absolutely...

Star Wars Ep1 was done the same way.
Too close, too choopy, ends up just being annoying.

[Tracy]

Post by Covenant

Post by Tracy

Post by Adam Cameron

Post by Tracy
Give us something to discuss Alien/(s)/3/ARse

... + AvP!

Oops! yeah! I *keep* forgetting to include that, I dont know why!!

Post by Adam Cameron
I liked AvP more than I liked A:R. And P, and P2 (close, on the second
one).

Yes, I liked AvP more than AR. But I cannot stand that fragmented,
flashing back and forth kinda effects done in a lot of films today,
where the opponents are battling each other but you cant quite keep
track on who's doing what, until one is dead! That effect was used in
all the battle scenes in AvP, and I hated it! Does anyone understand
what I mean?

Absolutely...
Star Wars Ep1 was done the same way.
Too close, too choopy, ends up just being annoying.

*THAT'S* the word I was looking for - choopy!! (But I spell it a
different way!!!) :P

[Covenant]

Post by Tracy

Post by Covenant

Post by Tracy

Post by Adam Cameron

Post by Tracy
Give us something to discuss Alien/(s)/3/ARse

... + AvP!

Oops! yeah! I *keep* forgetting to include that, I dont know why!!

Post by Adam Cameron
I liked AvP more than I liked A:R. And P, and P2 (close, on the second
one).

Yes, I liked AvP more than AR. But I cannot stand that fragmented,
flashing back and forth kinda effects done in a lot of films today,
where the opponents are battling each other but you cant quite keep
track on who's doing what, until one is dead! That effect was used in
all the battle scenes in AvP, and I hated it! Does anyone understand
what I mean?

Absolutely...
Star Wars Ep1 was done the same way.
Too close, too choopy, ends up just being annoying.

*THAT'S* the word I was looking for - choopy!! (But I spell it a
different way!!!) :P

Conformist !!!!

;' )

[Tracy]

Post by Covenant

Post by Tracy

Post by Covenant

Post by Tracy

Post by Adam Cameron

Post by Tracy
Give us something to discuss Alien/(s)/3/ARse

... + AvP!

Oops! yeah! I *keep* forgetting to include that, I dont know why!!

Post by Adam Cameron
I liked AvP more than I liked A:R. And P, and P2 (close, on the second
one).

Yes, I liked AvP more than AR. But I cannot stand that fragmented,
flashing back and forth kinda effects done in a lot of films today,
where the opponents are battling each other but you cant quite keep
track on who's doing what, until one is dead! That effect was used in
all the battle scenes in AvP, and I hated it! Does anyone understand
what I mean?

Absolutely...
Star Wars Ep1 was done the same way.
Too close, too choopy, ends up just being annoying.

*THAT'S* the word I was looking for - choopy!! (But I spell it a
different way!!!) :P

Conformist !!!!
;' )

Well... you know me!!!!!! :)))))

[Covenant]

Post by Tracy
Well... you know me!!!!!! :)))))

Indeed!

NOw then.. DEAD END!


Other than Batman himself being a bit.... *stagey* at times...
BLOODY HELL!!!

THAT was a well made fan flic!
(Although, looking at the crew they had....)

[Tracy]

Post by Tracy
There is another independant out there - watched it quite a few months
back but cant find the source to send a link - but will endeavour to.

Found it!! Bet you've all bloody seen it already!!! Originally seen
on some warez site, but found here (below) today!! :))

http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/nonsw/batman_deadend/index.asp

[Robert]

Post by h***@alienexperience.com
And here I thought we we're talking Aliens fan films, not independant
films of any variety?

Wasn't what you asked:

"If you can show me a better fan film (and don't even mention Batman:
Dead End), I'd like to see it."

[h***@alienexperience.com]

Post by Robert

Post by h***@alienexperience.com
And here I thought we we're talking Aliens fan films, not independant
films of any variety?

Dead End), I'd like to see it."

Exactly. Dead End had Aliens and Predators in it. So let me reiterate,
if you can make a better Alien/Predator fan film, I'd like to see it.

[Tracy]

Post by Robert
Dead End), I'd like to see it."

OOOOOPS!!!!!!!!!! <ahem> er... just posted it here! um......... :P

[Robert]

Post by Robert
Re-work the script, add about 10 minutes of coherent back-story, toss
in about a year of rehearsal and it might go somewhere.
You're kidding, right?

No, I'm not.

Post by Robert
It took them over 2 years to get what we got,

Apparently none of that went to rehearsal.


I was smart enough to piece

Post by Robert
it together and figure out what the general idea was, though, didn't
think it was that hard to figure out.

Well bully for you. I read the first three pages of the script and
quickly realized just how screwed up things were.

Post by Robert
Dead End), I'd like to see it.

At least two Star Wars parodies blow it out of the water (and I'm
no StarWars fanboy, let me assure you). The "Cops" satire (with the
drunken wife-beating Uncle Owen) and A Lost Hope. Nobody in SEED came
even close to the acting ability in those two.

What the SEED crew lost sight of is that it's the STORY that's
important. You leave the story on the floor, or don't shoot in the
first place, in favor of just about anything else, and you're left
with...not much.

[h***@alienexperience.com]

Robert wrote:
Well bully for you.

Bully for me...what are you, six?

Robert wrote:
At least two Star Wars parodies blow it out of the water (and I'm no
StarWars fanboy, let me assure you). The "Cops" satire (with the
drunken wife-beating Uncle Owen) and A Lost Hope. Nobody in SEED came
even close to the acting ability in those two.

I was referring to Alien-related fan films, not fan films in general.
The Star Wars one you're referring to is Troops, and yes, it was
awesome.

[Sandman]

Post by Robert

Post by h***@alienexperience.com
Dead End), I'd like to see it.

At least two Star Wars parodies blow it out of the water (and I'm
no StarWars fanboy, let me assure you). The "Cops" satire (with the
drunken wife-beating Uncle Owen) and A Lost Hope. Nobody in SEED came
even close to the acting ability in those two.

Duality rocks

http://galactic-voyage.com/images/Fan%20Movies/duality_640x272_sv3.mov

[Covenant]

Post by Sandman

Post by Robert

Post by h***@alienexperience.com
Dead End), I'd like to see it.

At least two Star Wars parodies blow it out of the water (and I'm
no StarWars fanboy, let me assure you). The "Cops" satire (with the
drunken wife-beating Uncle Owen) and A Lost Hope. Nobody in SEED came
even close to the acting ability in those two.

Duality rocks
http://galactic-voyage.com/images/Fan%20Movies/duality_640x272_sv3.mov

Yes...

Yes... It does!

Good work, without the wires!
(I actually think the individual sabre work is better than the dual blade
stuff, but the close ups certainly show a certain Mr Lucas how they shoulda
been done! Youcan SEE what's going on!)

[Sandman]

Post by Covenant

Post by Sandman
Duality rocks
http://galactic-voyage.com/images/Fan%20Movies/duality_640x272_sv3.mov

Yes...
Yes... It does!
Good work, without the wires!
(I actually think the individual sabre work is better than the dual blade
stuff, but the close ups certainly show a certain Mr Lucas how they shoulda
been done! Youcan SEE what's going on!)

This was made between ep1 and ep2, if I remember correctly.

[Adam Cameron]

What *is* it?

[Robert]

A sort of semi-pro fan flick. All the hardware, costumes and props are
from a real production company - all the rest is apparently amateur.
(At least, that's what I sussed from the web sites.)

Honestly, it's worth a peek. You might just want to skip ahead to the
final 8 minutes, though, for the action set-piece, because the rest of
it's only noteable for the technical aspects. (Lord, I wonder if any of
those people read this group. Sorry, guys. Nice try, but very rough
around the edges.)

It's really kinda painful to be critical of the thing - they obviously
love the franchise and they swung some really good production values,
but gawd....

Oh well.

[Corpral Hicks]

Post by Robert
A sort of semi-pro fan flick. All the hardware, costumes and props are
from a real production company - all the rest is apparently amateur.
(At least, that's what I sussed from the web sites.)
Honestly, it's worth a peek. You might just want to skip ahead to the
final 8 minutes, though, for the action set-piece, because the rest of
it's only noteable for the technical aspects. (Lord, I wonder if any of
those people read this group. Sorry, guys. Nice try, but very rough
around the edges.)
It's really kinda painful to be critical of the thing - they obviously
love the franchise and they swung some really good production values,
but gawd....
Oh well.

For me it was the FX and creature stuff I wasnt interested in. The editing
was aweful and the story confusing but I got what I wanted. Good creatures.

[Robert]

Post by Corpral Hicks
For me it was the FX and creature stuff I wasnt interested in. The editing
was aweful and the story confusing but I got what I wanted. Good creatures.

Yep, damn good critters. :)

Anyway, I just watched it again, and....it actually got a little
better.

As to the editing - if we're not all confusing stylistic taste, I
_think_ what you guys are finding fault with in that regard is the
script - the biggest/ugliest 'editing' problem I saw is just the way
the whole thing is layed out, esp. the flashes to sniper-dude. I don't
think the editor decides how entire chunks of story are laid out; he
just makes the chunks and incidentally connects them.

For some reason, all the wilderness photography has a much more
professional feel than the urban stuff, and I can't figure out why.

The story....*sigh*. They tossed canon to the wind by making the
bio-weapon program a major impetus of Weyland-Yutani. I wish people
would actually pay attention to the movies (Alien and Predator) -
there's a TON of story in there, disguised as horror in the former and
Ahnold actioner in the latter.

The thing needed one funny scene - I'd have written swat-boys first
encounter with the pred as a comedic 'escape by the skin of their
teeth, WTF was that THING?!?!" piece.


Stuff that might have been cool if they'd made it plain: Did the early
Pred go insane or something due to the cold? I mean, those urban shots
_look_ kinda North American, autumnish, kinda brisk. And we know Preds
like it hot, hot, hot. His head was still leaking blood later on,
so...wierd. Or is this some nonsense from the comics I don't want to
know about?

Well, at least there's enough to it to talk about. That's a plus, I
suppose.

And Yutani (or was it Weyland?) definitely needed a vist from "Queer
Eye"; that suit was AWFUL. :)

.

[Fraser Johnston]

Post by Robert
A sort of semi-pro fan flick. All the hardware, costumes and props are
from a real production company - all the rest is apparently amateur.
(At least, that's what I sussed from the web sites.)
Honestly, it's worth a peek. You might just want to skip ahead to the
final 8 minutes, though, for the action set-piece, because the rest of
it's only noteable for the technical aspects. (Lord, I wonder if any of
those people read this group. Sorry, guys. Nice try, but very rough
around the edges.)
It's really kinda painful to be critical of the thing - they obviously
love the franchise and they swung some really good production values,
but gawd....
Oh well.

Where can you download it?

Fraser

[Robert]

Post by Fraser Johnston
Where can you download it?

http://www.seedfilm.com/

Don't expect anything more than some _way_ cool costumes. :)

[Robert]

OK, looked at the script after my second viewing....omg. :) Yep, lots
of it didn't make the cut....but it wouldn't have helped anyway;
there's huge problems in the first 3-4 pages (which is as far as I
got). First up: our two "swat" boys were active duty military the
entire time...ah, huh? And _then_ they get re-instated to 'black ops'?
WTF is going on here?

Memo to the SEED crew: military advisors are a dime a dozen; ask around
and you'll get all sorts of help, gratis. Some of it probably
competent. :) First off - the US military (and they're supposed to be
US judging by the mongrelized uniform at the end; more on that later),
does NOT routinely engage in undercover law enforcement on US soil,
against US citizens, in civilian clothes, and certainly would never be
featured on the cover of a national magazine...except as part of
Congressional hearings in which heads are going to roll. If by chance
something like this _was_ done...the operators and their superiors are
so far beyond 'black ops' the idea of getting re-instated is laughable
- these guys are writing the black-op book, not reading it. The whole
thing as presented makes absolutely no sense.

The uniform: Oh dear. What _was_ that, anyway? The Navy doesn't wear
green, Marines aren't SEALs...and neither would take orders from an
Army general. (Unless it was joint black ops....*insert eye-roll*).

[Fraser Johnston]

Post by Doctor J. Frink

Post by Fraser Johnston
Where can you download it?

http://www.seedfilm.com/
Don't expect anything more than some _way_ cool costumes. :)

Hmmm. Grabbed it and started watching. It isn't exactly engaging is it?
10 points for trying though.

Fraser

[Doctor J. Frink]

Post by Adam Cameron
What *is* it?

I had a similar level of "What the hell are you lot on about?!"
confusion (especially with no links to anything being given).

It's a fan-film, apparently in the "alien vs predator" universe, set on
Earth. The film can be downloaded for free (215MB divx).

See <http://www.seedfilm.com/> .

I shall be giving it a shufty later (after midnight when my broadband
usage goes 'free').

Frink

[Adam Cameron]

Post by Doctor J. Frink
See <http://www.seedfilm.com/> .

*Thank-you*.
(Glad it occurred to at least ONE person to post a link).

Cheers.

[swarvegorilla]

Post by Adam Cameron

Post by Doctor J. Frink
See <http://www.seedfilm.com/> .

*Thank-you*.
(Glad it occurred to at least ONE person to post a link).
Cheers.
--
Adam

Yea sure and your friendly local dealer is doing you a favour when he trys
to sell ya a special smack mix ya can only nject into your eyes.......
Good costumes but not one bit of action. Camera just cuts before any contact
every time.
Story or something, lots of mumbling like a tv in the next door.
downloaded it, something new, had a laugh showed 1 person and then deleted.
Could always use it as a base to make your own movie, photoshop wizard knock
off like da kung pow
heh heh

[Cpl Leach]

A lot of people had problems with the plot........started out
interesting for me but as soon as you found out who the guy in the
weeds was it sort of fell apart.

Anyway the guy behind it Pete Mander has said it was really an FX test
with a little movie added in.
It was obviously good enough for it to be found at a recent convention
for sale <lol>

[Doctor J. Frink]

Post by Doctor J. Frink
I shall be giving it a shufty later (after midnight when my broadband
usage goes 'free').

Uh, yeah, what the hell was going on?

Surprisingly good creature effects and cinematography I thought, acting
was a bit lame but I was expecting that. The plot, however, left me
confused. If they'd made it make *sense* it would have been quite good
for a non-prof effort.

Frink

[w***@yahoo.com]

I'm thinking maybe looking back, I remember the site, and felt blessed
with the fact that I couldn't watch it on my Mac for some reason, and
indeed whether it was brilliant or not, I would possibly not feel
obliged to ever actually know.

Dom

[Corpral Hicks]

Post by Doctor J. Frink

Post by Doctor J. Frink
I shall be giving it a shufty later (after midnight when my broadband
usage goes 'free').

Uh, yeah, what the hell was going on?
Surprisingly good creature effects and cinematography I thought, acting
was a bit lame but I was expecting that. The plot, however, left me
confused. If they'd made it make *sense* it would have been quite good
for a non-prof effort.
Frink
--
Doctor J. Frink : 'Rampant Ribald Ringtail'
See his mind here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/
Annoy his mind here : pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook
"No sir, I didn't like it!" - Mr Horse

Twas all over the place. Confusing edited ruined it.

[Robert]

Post by Corpral Hicks
Twas all over the place. Confusing edited ruined it.

Well, that and an utter lack of having important plot points make it
into production. :)

[Tracy]

Post by Robert

Post by Corpral Hicks
Twas all over the place. Confusing edited ruined it.

Well, that and an utter lack of having important plot points make it
into production. :)

Yeah, stinks of AR(se) - remember *that* abomination???!!!! :P

[Robert]

Post by Tracy
Yeah, stinks of AR(se) - remember *that* abomination???!!!! :P

LOL, the one thing that had this group in a state of near-unanimity.
I've got a SciFi Channel tape (of They Live) that has Halloween promos
of their airing of the series...even THEY dissed it! Effin' hilarious.

[swarvegorilla]

Post by Robert

Post by Tracy
Yeah, stinks of AR(se) - remember *that* abomination???!!!! :P

LOL, the one thing that had this group in a state of near-unanimity.
I've got a SciFi Channel tape (of They Live) that has Halloween promos
of their airing of the series...even THEY dissed it! Effin' hilarious.

Holy shit does this mean AR is not the worst alien movie anymore?
So let me get this straight that means from shite to good it would go,
seed
ar
a3
a1
a2
Glad we got that cleared up.
(-) (-)
+
{WWW)
{MMM)

[Robert]

Post by swarvegorilla
Holy shit does this mean AR is not the worst alien movie anymore?

Errr, uhmmm....hold on a sec....

Post by swarvegorilla
So let me get this straight that means from shite to good it would go,
seed
ar
a3
a1
a2

Ah....no. SEED is definitely _not_ the worst Alien movie on that list.
Sorry. :) :O

[Tracy]

Post by Robert

Post by swarvegorilla
Holy shit does this mean AR is not the worst alien movie anymore?

Errr, uhmmm....hold on a sec....

Post by swarvegorilla
So let me get this straight that means from shite to good it would go,
seed
ar
a3
a1
a2

Ah....no. SEED is definitely _not_ the worst Alien movie on that list.
Sorry. :) :O

AR(se) is, and always will be, the worstist of them all!

[Adam Cameron]

seed
ar
a3
a1
a2

So you can't even bring yourself to admit AvP even exists?

(and it's SEED, A:R, AvP, As, A3, A, obviously ;-)

[Fraser Johnston]

Post by Adam Cameron

seed
ar
a3
a1
a2

So you can't even bring yourself to admit AvP even exists?
(and it's SEED, A:R, AvP, As, A3, A, obviously ;-)

You'd rate Alien 3 above Aliens???? *checks name of poster* Let me guess
you are James Camerons son and you think your dad is a complete asshole?

Frsaer

[swarvegorilla]

Post by Fraser Johnston

Post by Adam Cameron

seed
ar
a3
a1
a2

So you can't even bring yourself to admit AvP even exists?
(and it's SEED, A:R, AvP, As, A3, A, obviously ;-)

You'd rate Alien 3 above Aliens???? *checks name of poster* Let me guess
you are James Camerons son and you think your dad is a complete asshole?
Frsaer

actually AVP worked as a movie A3 didn't and either did seed.
AR was just shit, maybe a splice of AR+ A3+SEED could actually = something
worth watching.

[Adam Cameron]

Post by Fraser Johnston
You'd rate Alien 3 above Aliens????

Yep. As an *Alien* film, I think A3 is much better than Aliens. I concede
as a *film* Aliens is a more accomplished effort. I just don't care for
it; whereas A3 would be one of my favourite films.

Post by Fraser Johnston
*checks name of poster* Let me guess
you are James Camerons son and you think your dad is a complete asshole?

Heh, no. Terminator is one of my favourite films, and I do think Aliens is
a good film, just not as good as Alien3 in the frame of reference of "Alien
films". I don't have any time for any of the rest of James Cameron's work,
though.

Interestingly (or actually: not really) I was at the Cameron Clan Museum
(yes, there is one) last week, and they have a small dedication to James
Cameron in the "famous people named Cameron" section.

Adjacent to this was a photo of Kate Winslet signed by herself, with a wee
note saying something to the effect of "best wishes to the Cameron Clan
museum, Kate xxx". Odd. She's more [cough] "interesting" than my
namesake, though.

[Covenant]

Post by Adam Cameron
What *is* it?

It's it!